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Posted by Rose on July 30, 2000

In Reply to: Disputes posted by The Silver Surfer on July 30, 2000

: : : : : : : : : : Resident of Alton. --Saying that someone is wrong without evidence to support your own claims
: : : : : : : : : : is unjust and not very adamant. I understood Frankie's light hearted witticism about teenagers
: : : : : : : : : : in "Fat Chance" and even found an obvious validity towards it. Scott Marsden's view about "Sweet Fanny Adam's" to me was interesting because facts of a murder and expressions from the murder could have evolved or have double meanings. Those two and others use light witty humor from time to time which breaks up some of the mundane historical facts.
: : : : : : : : : : Try to use words less harsh like: "incorrect," "my opinion," "my experience" or "in my neck of the woods this is how we use the expression".
: : : : : : : : : : You will find then, a very friendly, intellectually stimulating and enlightening array of topics, expressions AND PEOPLE. This isn't a forum for verbal jousting.
: : : : : : : : : : Please stay because we value everyone's input. Being cordial will make your responses interesting.
: : : : : : : : : : To everyone else, my apologies for this interruption.

: : : : : : : : : Surely we do no service to the Emperor if we compliment him on his fine apparel when, in truth, he has no clothes. See Frankie's contribution to "call a spade a spade"

: : : : : : : : I'm sorry that my point flew right over your head. Your "Emperor" analogy doesn't fit here.
: : : : : : : : Yes I saw Frankie's contribution,...did you? He CLEARLY states that the explanation wasn't his but a post he found in this forum from February.
: : : : : : : : So he's not exactly attesting to its truth.
: : : : : : : : Now, isn't that a NICE WAY of being straight forward. If you see ESC's explanation a few after his find, you will notice it mirrors the first sentence. Because of Frankie's post, I visited the February archives to see what was originally discussed and by whom.
: : : : : : : : How do you know that "Call a spade a spade didn't evolve into different meanings from its original. How do you know that a minor contribution by someone isn't used as a foundation of research to finding the real origin. It's been said that if you don't like what you're watching on TV,.change the channel. Having said that, I will not click on your replies anymore and skip over them. Every once in a while someone like you comes....then goes.
: : : : : : : : P.S. --Contributions spark interesting discussions --notice the icon to enter this site: ("Discussion Forum") it's not called "State a fact that you cannot support, tell everyone they're wrong and leave Forum". That's a site that you should go look for. Good-Bye.

: : : : : : : I'm amazed at you're emotional reaction: are you perhaps Frankie wearing another mask?

: : : : : : No. I don't feel it's appropriate to reveal anything personal about myself. I think we've said enough to each other. Please move on.

: : : : : Let's have an end to this Frankie/Mary double act it's bringing this site into disrepute. OK?

: : : : I think there is a rhythm to our little disputes here on Phrase Finder. All is peaceful for a time. Then a lively discussion breaks out. Full moons or something. Makes life interesting.

: : : Rose, the fire burns brightly enough - leave your logs on the woodpile.

: : Now that's an interesting phrase. Are you saying "don't fan the flames"? Or "who asked you to stick your oar in the water"?

: Being an author of sorts I either invented it or dredged it up from deep and dark recesses - I know not from which source it sprung. In the context it was intended to convey the instruction not to add to the fire lest it consume us all - Gary has a wicked temper and could, at a stroke of a key, eliminate this site: that would be sad.

Well, Gary seems pretty mild-mannered to me. But there is the possibility that he'll close down the playground if we get too raucous. And THEN what would I do for entertainment. (Don't answer that.) I do wish everyone would have a look-see at the Flame Warriors gallery (see Flame Warriors post for the address). It's a hoot and gives insight into the dynamics of a discussion group.