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Getting the hook

Posted by James Briggs on March 13, 2003

In Reply to: Getting the hook posted by TheFallen on March 13, 2003

: : : : : A little time ago the US TV show CSI asked for help with a phrase. I've had another request from them. Can anyone help with this:

: : : : : "I was very much hoping to get your assistance with another question. We are trying to find the origins of the term "getting the hook" or "give 'em the hook." An upcoming CSI episode takes place in a comedy club. A rather awful comedian is "given the hook" and kicked off stage. We were wondering where this phrase or action comes from. One of the writers speculated that it may have started in vaudeville."

: : : : I'm going to have to start watching that show. I'm away from my library right now, but I'd be glad to have a look.

: : : I believe the vaudeville explanation is correct. Partridge's Dictionary of Catch Phrases: American and British, from the Sixteenth Century to the Present Day has this entry:

: : : 'get the hook!' This US c.p. derives 'from the days, up to c. 1930, of amateur vaudeville contests; it was said that the managers kept a long hook in the wings to drag off incompetent but stubbornly persistent performers. Not, of course, a c.p. in those circumstances, but it is one when some guest is not succeeding in entertaining the company; sometimes extended to losing a job' (Prof. John W. Clark, 1978).

: : GIVE THE HOOK ? ?The ?hook? here is straight out of vaudeville. In grandfather's time, a weekly event at the local vaudeville house was Amateur Night, when local talent competed for modest prizes and an opportunity to get a start in show business. Very bad acts were hooted vehemently and, when the boos reached a peak, the manager would reach out from the wings with a long pole bearing a hook at the end and unceremoniously jerk the ham out of the limelight. Nowadays anyone who gets or is given ?the hook? is a person discharged for incompetence.? From the Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins by William and Mary Morris (HarperCollins, New York, 1977, 1988).

: I expect a more modern equivalent would be "being gonged".

A not uncommon Cockney phrase used to tell someone to go away, clear off etc is "sling your hook", but pronounced "sling yer 'ook". Could this have a common origin?