phrases, sayings, idioms and expressions at

Bottom out

Posted by Lotg on October 04, 2003

In Reply to: Bottom out posted by TheFallen on October 04, 2003

: : : I was just watching a deep and meaningful (yeah right) episode of NYPD and one of the characters said that their snitch, bottomed out, which I assume means they backed out, whimped out, whatever. This means that what I think the term 'bottom out' means and what Americans think it means must be different.

: : : So what does 'bottom out' mean to an American and how did it originate?

: : It means to "hit bottom" or come to a position in life from which the only place to go is up.
: : The recovery movement talks about "hitting bottom" with the concept that a drug addict/alcoholic has a better chance of letting go of certain behaviors if that person "hits bottom". Losing your family, your job, your house,your business can be considered aspects of "hitting your bottom".

: To bottom out here in the UK means basically exactly what Bruce said. It's the position from which things cannot get any worse, but can only stay the same or potentially improve. I believe the expression is from the world of mathematics, where a curve on a graph bottoms out. "The curve has clearly bottomed out." is a phrase much-beloved of politicians trying manfully to assure an ever less gullible public that some trend is not in fact worsening any more - needless to say, that trend almost always heads further downward.

::: Ahhh. I've made the wrong assumption then (in my example). Considering what you've told me they were saying their snitch had bottomed out, no doubt meant the snitch had hit rock bottom and because of THAT he'd become useless to the police. Yep, makes sense now.