Posted by Barney on October 18, 2002
In Reply to: Indian Giver posted by Bruce Kahl on October 18, 2002
: : Doesn't this phrase carry negative connotations toward Native Americans? Someone please help settle a heated discussion/disagreement I am having with some co-workers!
: It sure is racist.
: The phrase dates back to the early 19th century and originally meant someone who gives a gift in the expectation of receiving something of greater value in return, which was indeed a custom among Indians that must have struck early European settlers as rather odd. Later on, the phrase came to mean a "false gift," as the adjective "Indian" itself took on the pejorative meaning of "false" or "mock," a sense also found in "Indian Summer" and "Indian corn."
'Indian Giver' is not an expression I've ever heard used in the UK.
- Never heard this meaning Karl
and American Indian the meaning of this phrase. Ed Stansell 10/19/02
- Shouldn't it be European-giver Karl 10/21/02
- Ask and American Indian the meaning of this phrase. Silver Surfer 10/20/02
- Ask and American Indian the meaning of this phrase. Ed Stansell 10/22/02
think Ed may have a point Word Camel 10/20/02
- I think Ed may have a point--He sure does, however... Bruce Kahl 10/21/02
- Ask and American Indian the meaning of this phrase. Ed Stansell 10/19/02