Neither here nor there


What's the meaning of the phrase 'Neither here nor there'?

Of no consequence either one way or the other.

What's the origin of the phrase 'Neither here nor there'?

This 16th century phrase is often wrongly attributed to William Shakespeare. The first use of it in print that I know of is in Arthur Golding’s translation of The sermons of J. Calvin upon Deuteronomie, 1583:

“True it is that our so dooing is neither here nor there (as they say) in respect of God.”

The ‘as they say’ in that quotation suggests an earlier origin.

Shakespeare did use the phrase ‘neither here nor there’, but later, in Othello, 1616.

See also, hither and yon.

Gary Martin is a writer and researcher on the origins of phrases and the creator of the Phrase Finder website. Over the past 26 years more than 700 million of his pages have been downloaded by readers. He is one of the most popular and trusted sources of information on phrases and idioms.

Gary Martin

Writer and researcher on the origins of phrases and the creator of the Phrase Finder website. Over the past 26 years more than 700 million of his pages have been downloaded by readers. He is one of the most popular and trusted sources of information on phrases and idioms.