In Reply to: Frog in the throat posted by Frederick Winston on September 09, 2009 at 08:02:
: Frog in the throat
: I have heard that this is an old English saying. Parisians still use their throat to make the R sound. And as you may know, the French are often given the slang name of Frogs.
: England had several French monarchs and was occupied by the French. I have always heard that when an Englishman had a sore throat, they would say they had a 'frog' or a Frenchman, in their throat.
Leaving aside any other consideration, isn't the sound of the 'trilled' or 'rolled' R of the French (and other languages) made with the tongue? I speak Irish (which also has a voiced 'R') and I don't make the sound with my throat.