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'dead in the water', again

Posted by ESC on August 25, 2003

In Reply to: 'dead in the water', again posted by GPP on August 25, 2003

: : : : : I posted a question only a couple of days ago, but it's already disappearing out of sight down the page, with no responses to date: Can anyone help me with the provenance of the phrase 'dead in the water' (which pretty soon could be applied to the question itself)?

: : : : Some of us look at every new post. When a question gets no answer, it's often because nobody here knows its answer. That probably happened this time.

: : : Yeah, that's what I was afraid of, and why I added my parenthetical remark. I gave the same answer myself to someone else's repeated question a week or so ago. But I like EAH's suggestion, above this response. (I have to say I'm not one of those who read all new posts, though--only the ones that seem intriguing.)

: : I think it has a naval origin. A disabled warship is 'dead in the water'. By extension, anything out of action is too.

: Yes--this from EAH, in a separate thread fork:
: "When there is no wind, a sailing ship is 'dead in the water'. Another related phrase is 'in the doldrums'."

: Thanks, both.

I looked in several references including two nautical phrase books. Couldn't find the expression even though it is a common one.

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