Posted by Martin Pike on April 03, 2002
In Reply to: Ho Hum posted by Barney on April 02, 2002
: : : : : : : : : : : Thank you very much, everyone who posted a reply. I am more than pleastanly surprised and the speed at which you all did so. Thanks again :)
: : : : : : : : : : Just a cheery tale I thought I'd share with you that's vaguely related. A friend of mine who's a historian and usually a credible source, assures me that the Druids used occasionally sacrifice unfortunate victims by making a small incision in their lower abdomen, reaching inside and severing the large intestine as low as they could reach. They then festively pulled out the cut end, nailed it to the treetrunk and forced the victim to run round and round the tree - presumably at sickle-point. Enjoy your Easter lunches, all :)
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: : : : : : : : : I believe your little 'story' about the activities of the Druids is completely without foundation but if your 'friend' - the notable historian - has any credible evidence then I'm sure we would all be interested and you will doubtless hasten to deliver it - won't you?
: : : : : : : : I doubt that a person with such a wound would be able to run at all. I also doubt that the intestine would unroll like film coming off a reel; isn't it attached to other structures in the abdomen, not simply piled in there? Let's await the judgment of someone with more medical knowledge.
: : : : : : : I think it's entirely plausible. I have heard of this practice before, and while I can not speak about the druids with much authority, my uncle is has written several books about the Indian Wars here in the US.
: : : : : : : According to him, accounts of things that went at that time make it clear that doing nasty things with intestines while a victim was still alive was widely practiced. Possibilities included feeding them to the dogs or simply yanking them out. I'm not sure they could run around but I bet they could stagger.
: : : : : : : On the guts for garters theme, it was also popular to take the sinews of people one had killed in battle. Apparently the sinews made very tough but flexible cords that came in handy for all sorts of things.
: : : : : : : It doesn't seem a great leap to imagine similar things going on in Europe.
: : : : : : As requested, I'm endeavouring to find web-based sources referring to those nasty Druids. So far, I'm delighted to report that the practice is clearly not one born solely out of my twisted imagination, since it's clearly alluded to here:-
: : : : : : www.osirisani.com/ neo-futurists/fool.html
: : : : : : (As far as I can tell, that url gives lines of dialogue from some play, but clearly not one I'd go and watch. It's hardly definitive in any way, but someone else at least shares the nightmare.)
: : : : : : I trust this will at least temporarily keep the corgis at bay. I do idly wonder, if I'd claimed that the druids had disembowelled people by winding their entrails round a proto-flyball governor, whether my credibility would have been so vilely impugned... *grin*
: : : : : I'm afraid that after this performance you have no credibility, other than as a contributor of fabricated, opportunist dribble.
: : : : Fabricated? Possibly, I grant you, but not fabricated by me, as the previously posted link demonstrates. I think that "currently apocryphal" might be more accurate. When I run into my apparently imaginary friend again, I'll attempt to beat indisputable sources out of him. It's more than possible, I suppose, that he was pulling my leg at the time, since I enjoy people with a sense of humour - one of the things shown in such good measure by most posters here.
: : : : I feel duty bound here to take issue wickedly with the formidable R. Berg, who coined the word "curmudgeonhood" in an earlier post to describe a state of mind and/or emotion in those younger in years. I'd respectfully suggest that no such coinage is necessary. A perfectly suitable word already exists, and as most here will by now be painfully or chucklingly aware, that word is petulance.
: : : : Happy Easter, all.
: : : A retreat, an 'almost'apology and a sad little attempt to hide your chagrin behind an accusation of petulance that you build on a failed insult delivered by another. Is there no limit?
: : Well, let's see. So far we have the previous poster failing to recognise that the "curmudgeonhood" post was clearly nothing other than light-hearted, failing to recognise that his telling another poster that he has no credibility and spouts dribble is indeed insulting, imagining he sees apologies where there are none, insulting two long-standing posters through complete misinterpretation, pouring more abuse on two other posters when they dare to disagree with him, and most worryingly of all, seeming to believe he is on some sort of divine mission, as shown by this recent quotation of his: "to bar the way to the truth of what needs to be done."
: : Megalomania? Complete lack of self-awareness? Persecution complex? And all these psychoses at the age of 36? There's enough here to keep a psychologists' convention busy for days.
: Well now, are you sure that that's your considered opinion or is it just an ill thought out knee-jerk reaction?
It's an empirically formulated theory, since you ask.