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If you can read this, thank the U.S. Department of Defense!

Posted by Brian from Shawnee on June 21, 2004

In Reply to: If you can read this, thank the inventors of the internet! posted by Didactic Lewis on June 21, 2004

: : : : : : : What does this mean? It described the way a woman worked at her business in a large corporation.
: : : : : : : Thank you.

: : : : : : I'm not sure. Here something I found by googling:

: : : : : : "This part, the shearer, does the actual cutting of the coal from the coal face. The shearer has two rotating bits that cut into the coal face and works back and forth across the face, much like when you eat an ear of corn on the cob, except only this is way harder than the corn and much much dirtier."

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: : : : : In UK business terminology being 'at the coal face' is used figuratively of any worker or manager who is in touch with the day to day processes of the business rather than having ceased to have involvement with the public or the production.

: : : : : it is a way of saying that the person is 'in touch' and appreciates the actualities of the business rather than being a 'bean-counter' (accountant) a 'paper pusher' (administrator) or a 'fat-cat' (overpaid manager).

: : : : : obviously the original 'coal-face' is a mining term to describe an underground worker that actually cuts the coal from the rock - but the sense of direct involvment with the core of the business is the important element, rather than it being dangerous or dirty.

: : : : In my line of business (UK university) this has been adapted - in the mode of xGate for any scandal. Here, those who teach 'work at the chalkface'. All others, like myself, are considered by the chalky-handed ones as bureaucratic wasters.

: : : : My local greengrocer claims to work at the vegface (really).

: : : I bet he sells those potatoes that look like John Prescott...

: : : there is the old saying :

: : : "those than can, do
: : : those that can't, teach
: : : those that can't teach, teach teachers
: : : those that can't teach teachers run the DoE" (now DfE, I suppose)
: : : you could add
: : : "...and those that can't run the DfE run the country"

: : : with mother-in-law on the HEFC & a former college principal, father-in-law formerly in the local university education department and dean of students (now visiting professor for some foreign uni), both having worked in teacher training earlier in their careers and some of my best friends teachers - that would offend just about everybody.

: : : I can hardly understand why teachers bother, with the stupid levels of bureaucracy - detracting from any joy they get watching kids learn. It must be the long holidays that teachers get ;-)

: : We should be grateful for teachers. This single profession is the real driver that moves us towards civilization. And we should be optimistic.....when I look at the top tier of the high school and University students today, I'm very impresssed with their intelligence and breadth of knowledge. We tend to get discouraged because of the bottom of the bell shaped curve -- but look at the movement in the top to see progress.
: : For generations teaching was oral transmission.
: : The Navajo had 'storytellers' and they served to convey the knowledge of one generation to the next. We now have the internet --- and I think we have potential to do a splendid job.

: Perhaps the internet brings out the teacher in a lot of us - the ability to share knowledge and experience has been a key feature. Whilst there is a lot of roadkill littering the information super-highway, to be able to find information quickly is a great advance - it is like somebody took a living library and plonked it on every desk. OK so there is rubbish and spurious theories, but there is a core of good information - much like a physical library.

: Story-telling should not be lost - people cannot help but be interested in the characters and that focus can help the transmission of knowledge and wisdom. If it was good enough for Confucius, Jesus and the Prophets, there must be some merit in story-telling as a medium.

As everyone knows, of course, the internet was invented by the U.S. Department of Defense.

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