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Two fingers

Posted by Henry on November 09, 2003

In Reply to: The posted by Bob on November 08, 2003

: : : Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of all captured English soldiers. Without their middle finger, it would be impossible to draw the renowned English longbow and therefore they would be incapable of fighting in the future. The longbow was a famous weapon. It was made of the native English Yew tree, and the act of drawing the longbow was known as "plucking the yew."

: : : Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English won a major upset and began mocking the French by waving their middle fingers at the defeated French, saying, "See, we can still pluck yew! PLUCK YEW!"

: : : Over the years, some 'folk etymologies' have grown up around this symbolic gesture. Since 'pluck yew' is rather difficult to say (like "pleasant mother pheasant plucker", which is who you had to go to for the feathers used on the arrows for the longbow), the difficult consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a labiodental fricative 'F', and thus the words often used in conjunction with the one-finger-salute are mistakenly thought to have something to do with an intimate encounter. It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows that the symbolic gesture is known as "giving the bird.

: : : Are you not thrilled that you have someone out there that will send you educational stuff like this? History repeats it's self - Once again the appropriate message was given to the French! This submission from comes to you courtesy of a true American.

: : "Folk etymology" means an explanation that is moderately plausible but false. The story you've sent is an example. See archives--it's already there.

: You are too kind. This fanciful tale isn't anywhere near plausible.

Kurt, if you ever come to Britain, make sure you know the distinction between the American and the British V signs. Curiously, it may well be true that this British insult derives from the archers at the time of Agincourt.