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Re: Not John Paul Jones but John Barry

Posted by TheFallen on November 16, 2004

In Reply to: Re: Not John Paul Jones but John Barry posted by Smokey Stover on November 16, 2004

: : : During an American Revolutionary War discussion here, the phrase 'father of the American navy' was used, and my wee Scottish lass and I have had a running disagreement over who deserves this titled reference. Is it Captain John Paul Jones or his former commander Captain John Barry? I have Googled but have not found any agreement.

: : Difficult one this but easier to solve than it appears :

: : The John Barry Seven preceded Led Zeppelin, so I guess he wins.

: And the prize goes to John Barry, born in County Wexford, Ireland, in 1745, died in Philadelphia in 1803. See the bio by Wm. Bell Clark . I've never heard anyone call John Paul Jones the Father of the Navy, although doubtless it has happened. SS

I thought John Paul Jones was in the Sex Pistols?