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Re: First crack out of the box

Posted by ESC on August 03, 2004

In Reply to: Re: First crack out of the box posted by Brian from Shawnee on August 03, 2004

: : : I had the following request from someone with a US email address. There was no more to the question. I've never heard the expression. Can anyone help?

: : : "What is the origin of "first crack out of the box"?"

: : I don't know what the origin is. But I found a meaning and similar phrases.

: : First crack off the bat.
: : First crack/cat out of the box.
: : First dash/pop/rattle out of the box.

: : They all are 20th century phrases and mean: immediately, at the first attempt.

: : From "Cassell's Dictionary of Slang" by Jonathon Green (Wellington House, London, 1998).

: The phrase appears in Chapter 31 of Babbitt by Sinclair Lewis, published in 1922. It also pops up all over the internet in a google search, throughout the English-speaking world.

: I never heard it before either. Babbitt was one of the many books I didn't read thoroughly enough in high school.

Again, I found all these expressions in a reference but it doesn't say what the origin is. It has 1909 as the earliest citation. It also has "first shot out of the box." The reference says "first rattle out of the box" is a cowboy's expression meaning "prompt action." From "Dictionary of American Regional English," Volume II by Frederic G. Cassidy and Joan Houston Hall (1991, Belknap Press of Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Mass., and London, England).

Could it be a rodeo term?