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Re: Don't take any wooden nickels

Posted by ESC on February 19, 2004

In Reply to: Re: Don't take any wooden nickels posted by Smokey Stover on February 19, 2004

: : : I stumbled onto this site and saw lots of stuff on this phrase-most of which is wrong. The first wooden nickel made in this country was produced in 1933 in Blaine Washington when the local bank failed. Pretty hard to coin a phrase when there wasn't any woodenn nickels to take.
: : : From that beginning they became used in many places as depression script and to commemorate civic events such as centennials. They always had an expiration date so if you nmissed turning them back in before that date you were stuck.
: : : In the 1930's when most of the employed people in the US were working for a dollar a day or less this created a great hardship-thus they were warned "Dont take any wooden nickels"

: : The Wooden Nickel History Museum folks agree with you. http://www.wooden-nickel.net/history/

: : But somebody needs to tell these guys:

: : DON'T TAKE ANY WOODEN NICKELS - "First recorded in about 1915, this expression was originally a warning from friends and relatives to rubes leaving the sticks in the great migration from rural areas to the big cities at the turn of the century. It was a humorous adjuration meaning beware of those city slickers, for no real wooden nickels were ever counterfeited - they would have cost more to make than they'd have been worth. Ironically, country boys were the ones who possibly did succeed in passing off wooden objects as the real thing. Yankee peddlers as early as 1825 allegedly sold wooden nutmegs, which cost manufacturers a quarter of a cent apiece mixed in with lots of real nutmegs worth four cents each." From "Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins" by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997).

: : A second source says, the expression means: "Don't let yourself be cheated or ripped off. Originated in the United States in the 1920s and 1930s. Money that has no real value is sometimes called 'wooden'.Probably stories about wooden nutmegs, wooden hams, and wooden pumpkin seeds contributed to the later use of the phrase 'wooden nickels' in American or even to the use of 'wooden rubles' in Russia." From "Random House Dictionary of Popular Proverbs and Sayings" by Gregory Y. Titelman (Random House, New York, 1996).

: : Another source adds: "The United States minted five-cent pieces from the earliest days of the Union, but they were not known as nickels until 1866, because in that year the first five-cent coins containing nickel were minted. The practice of making commemorative tokens out of wood as centennial souvenirs developed and we assume that wooden nickels actually were made during the nineteenth century for this purpose. Frequently such coins are accepted as legal tender while the celebration is in progress, but of course they cease to have value when the show is over. So the expression 'Don't take any wooden nickels' became the popular equivalent of 'Don't be a sucker.'." From "Morris Dictionary of Word and Phrase Origins" by William and Mary Morris (HarperCollins, New York, 1977, 1988).

: The phrase had imitators. One of the schools I attended was in a very god-fearing little town where booze, movies and dancing were all banned. One year the high school play was "Janie" , a story of family life. The citizens who saw it were made extremely uncomfortable when one character said to Janie, "Don't take any wooden brassieres!"

The other day I saw wooden cowboy hats in a shop window. I'm not sure what the point was.