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Re: Dim as a Toc-h Lamp

Posted by Barney on December 18, 2003

In Reply to: Re: Dim as a Toc-h Lamp posted by James Briggs on December 18, 2003

: : any ideas to the this means....???

: TocH was a charity, similar to the Salvation Army. It set up various troop facilities in WW1. If these were near the front line, then the outside lamp was very dim for safety reasons. Hence the saying.

There used to be - maybe still is - a 'Toc H' establishment somewhere near 'All Hallows by the Tower' (London England) that had a very dim lamp above the door: I took this to be a symbol of the organisation.