Re: Slight Tangent
Posted by Darren Williams on January 17, 2000
In Reply to: Re: Slight Tangent posted
by Mary on January 17, 2000
: : : : : : : I'm hoping not to curve this educational and fun
forum but I have an arguement to solve with friends.
: : : : : : : Call it a phrase or a technicality but does anyone
really know the truth about what constitutes someones name (phrase)to
being a "junior" vs. 11 (the second).
: : : : : : : I was told that the American rules are not the same
as the England rules. If your first name only is the same as your
parent but your middle name is different then your are a "junior".
: : : : : : : But, if your first and middle names are the same as
your parent then you're considered 11 (the second).
: : : : : : : Please help. And forgive me if I pivoted too far. : : : : : : Neither the term 'junior' or 'II' are used in the UK
and if there is a rule it is 'don't use that silly American expression'.
I should say that if you referred to a young person as '********
junior' they would construe it as a term of abuse and punch you
on the nose - in impolite society such as down in the public bar
at the 'Dog and Duck' pub. : : : : : : Hope this helps. : : : : : You all over there in Englend have bars with names like
"Dog and Duck" and think we Americans have silly expressions? Our
bars have nice sensible names like "Mom's" or the "Dew Drop Inn." : : : : Now real English Pub names are interesting in that they
originally all had painted signs which depicted some simple scenes,
e.g., Plough and Horses, Eight Bells, The Kings Arms, etc. The population
in those early days of the 14th and 15th centuries were, in the
main, illiterate and travellers who couldn't read the words under
the sign used the scene on the sign to identify the Pub - which
was usually an hotel of sorts. : : : Oh. So that explains it. We just waited until neon lights
were invented. The illiterate and travellers could find their way
by looking for the giant martini glass. : :
: : Take that attitude if you must, let's hope you're happy with
it and it gives you comfort. I was working on the principle that
Native Americans in the 14th & 15th centuries didn't use pubs a
lot and that the early settlers were an erudite lot who embraced
learning and would have been mortified to find, amongst their number,
a significant percentage of illiterate travellers. What am I saying??? : What does all this have to do with the man's question about "junior
vs, "II"? Does anyone know the answer?
Not a lot really. I regret dragging the train off the tracks so
to speak. In my defence I claim I was encouraged by 'ESC' and abetted
by the title 'Slight Tangent'.
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