Re: Slight Tangent
Posted by Darren Williams on January 16, 2000
In Reply to: Re: Slight Tangent posted
by ESC on January 16, 2000
: : : : : I'm hoping not to curve this educational and fun forum
but I have an arguement to solve with friends.
: : : : : Call it a phrase or a technicality but does anyone really
know the truth about what constitutes someones name (phrase)to being
a "junior" vs. 11 (the second).
: : : : : I was told that the American rules are not the same as
the England rules. If your first name only is the same as your parent
but your middle name is different then your are a "junior".
: : : : : But, if your first and middle names are the same as your
parent then you're considered 11 (the second).
: : : : : Please help. And forgive me if I pivoted too far. : : : : Neither the term 'junior' or 'II' are used in the UK and
if there is a rule it is 'don't use that silly American expression'.
I should say that if you referred to a young person as '********
junior' they would construe it as a term of abuse and punch you
on the nose - in impolite society such as down in the public bar
at the 'Dog and Duck' pub. : : : : Hope this helps. : : : You all over there in Englend have bars with names like "Dog
and Duck" and think we Americans have silly expressions? Our bars
have nice sensible names like "Mom's" or the "Dew Drop Inn." : : Now real English Pub names are interesting in that they originally
all had painted signs which depicted some simple scenes, e.g., Plough
and Horses, Eight Bells, The Kings Arms, etc. The population in
those early days of the 14th and 15th centuries were, in the main,
illiterate and travellers who couldn't read the words under the
sign used the scene on the sign to identify the Pub - which was
usually an hotel of sorts. : Oh. So that explains it. We just waited until neon lights were
invented. The illiterate and travellers could find their way by
looking for the giant martini glass.
Take that attitude if you must, let's hope you're happy with it
and it gives you comfort. I was working on the principle that Native
Americans in the 14th & 15th centuries didn't use pubs a lot and
that the early settlers were an erudite lot who embraced learning
and would have been mortified to find, amongst their number, a significant
percentage of illiterate travellers. What am I saying???
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